RCMP and the ARMY ... conflict?

[hireme]

Hey folks!!

Good luck to all trying to join a force!

Heres my question...

What does anyone know about joining the RCMP AND the ARMY RESERVE?

Im want to do both. You can do both for any other police force, some forces are super supporters of this!

I e-mailed both the army (CF) say they dont have a problem with someone being in both jobs, but the RCMP say they have an issue. The RCMP issue is that they say their are pension problems. By the time you graduate from Depot in Sask. you need to quit the reserves.

Apparently this is changing, but no word yet.

Personally I dont believe this, as the pension in the reserves is a new thing and the no RCMP while in the reserves is an age old problem. Reciently talked to a few Canadian Forces Recruiters and they still say they have no problem.


Any ideas??

A specific question I want answered is where is this written down?



Thanks!!!!

[boltcutter]

Hello there,

I want to do both as well and do not want to wait for the RCMP recuiting process to end before trying the Reserve. Also, if I don't make it into the RCMP I may not find out for several months and in the mean time I can be investigating other career paths.

Anyhow, I will email and talk with some RCMP recruiters and see if I can find anything on this.

Boltcutter.

[jlege097]

Hey Hireme,

I think this might help you out... I know it does not address pension implications, but it still states that you can serve in both organisations.

In a perfect world, you should be able to put your reserve military time, and transfer it towards RCMP time for pension, but I have a feeling that it is going to cause A LOT of pension problems, especially reservists that become RCMP officers that have not bought there pension time back from the reserves, and of course having been in the reserves for a significant time...

However, maybe they have something set up to transfer time over, who knows...

Cheers

CANFORGEN 108/07 CMP 044/07 041356Z JUN 07
ELIGIBILITY OF RCMP MEMBERS TO SERVE IN THE RESERVES
UNCLASSIFIED


REFS: A. PCO 2007-0215
B. QR AND O 6.01(2)(A)
C. NDA 12(1)



THE PURPOSE OF THIS CANFORGEN IS TO ANNOUNCE CHANGES TO THE RESERVE ENROLMENT POLICY CONTAINED IN QUEENS REGUALTIONS AND ORDERS (QR AND O) AS IT PERTAINS TO MEMBERS OF THE ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE (RCMP)


THROUGH CONSULTATION WITH THE RCMP IT HAS BEEN DEEMED BENEFICIAL TO BOTH ORGANIZATIONS TO WAIVE THE RESTRICTION DENYING RCMP MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY OF SERVING WITH THE CANADIAN FORCES IN ALL SUB-COMPONENTS OF THE RESERVE FORCE. IT MUST BE NOTED HOWEVER, THAT TWO CAVEATS REMAIN IN THE EMPLOYMENT OF THESE MEMBERS:


THE RCMP ACT PROHIBITS RCMP MEMBERS FROM ENROLING/TRANSFERRING TO THE CANADIAN FORCES (CF) AS MILITARY POLICE MOSID 00161 OR AS MILITARY POLICE OFFICERS MOSID 00214


IN TIME OF DECLARED EMERGENCY, THE RCMP WILL RETAIN THE AUTHORITY FOR PRIORITY RECALL OF ITS MEMBERS


EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, CFRG IS AUTHORIZED TO PROCESS RCMP MEMBERS FOR ENROLMENT/TRANSFER INTO ANY SUB-COMPONENT OF THE RESERVE FORCE IN ANY MOSID EXCEPT THOSE MENTIONED IN PARA 3

[hireme]

THANKS jlege097!!


That info does help a lot!! Much better than what I was getting from the RCMP recruiters!!

Thanks again!!

:-)

[jlege097]

No problem

[hireme]

got wind back from RCMP recruiting... the pension issue is still a problem...


But does anyone have a source? ( why is it an issue?)

[hireme]

anyone else have any insight on this? Im still finding difficulty geting specific answers from the RCMP, the Military is game for letting someone have both jobs, OPP and municipal also dont have a problem, so why the RCMP?

[hireme]

So here it is... a memo

Just incase anyone was interested, the policy just changed a few months ago.


dated Jan 17, 2007

it states:

General RM Applicants - Canadian Forces Reserves Members are now permitted to continue with their duties. Recruiting units and Depot staffing are no longer required to ask for a letter of resignation.

Thanks to those who tried to help out! :-)

[boltcutter]

So here it is... a memo

Just incase anyone was interested, the policy just changed a few months ago.


dated Jan 17, 2007

it states:

General RM Applicants - Canadian Forces Reserves Members are now permitted to continue with their duties. Recruiting units and Depot staffing are no longer required to ask for a letter of resignation.

Thanks to those who tried to help out! :-)

That is good to know. So, if I do make it to depot I would just have to let my reserve unit know I will be gone for several weeks. One problem with this though is that since one can be sent anywhere in Canada there may be no reserve unit within a reasonable distance.

[hireme]

then transfer to the PRL

Primary Reserve List