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    syllogism help

    Rumor is spreading quickly that I am a syllogistic genius. O.K. so let me make this perfectly clear. I AM NOT. I explained to someone yesterday some patterns of ways syllogisms work. She said that she was only getting 25% on syllogisms. Now, she is pulling 75-90% on them. In my opinion, most syllogsims are not that difficult. Some are real head scratchers. Also, there are a handfull of syllogisms on Police Prep that I question as to their correctness. However, if you grasp the pattern, you will pass. I have never gotten a perfect score on syllogisms. I even took another test today and only got 11 of 15 correct.

    Here are things in my studies that I have noticed about syllogisms:

    The first sentence is the major premise and the second sentence is the minor premise. So here is how it would look:

    Major Premise: All dogs are canines.
    Minor Premise: All canines eat meat.


    Based on these two premises, you must come up with a conclusion. Most syllogisms are not hard. If both premises start with "All", your conclusion will start with "All". If one premise has the word "Not" or "No" in it, your conclusion will have a negative statement in it, like "not" or "no". If one premise has the word "Some" in it, your conclusion will have the word "some" in it. If the word "none" or "no" is in one premise and "some" is in the minor premise, they will almost always both be mentioned as in the phrase "Some ________ are not......"

    Also, the noun, word, or phrase that repeats itself in the minor premise, like "canines" in our syllogism above WILL ususally NOT be found in our conclusion. So here is the conclusion to the above syllogism:

    All dogs eat meat

    Now lets try this one:

    Major Premise: All dogs are canines
    Minor Premise: No canines eat meat.


    The conclusion?

    No dogs eat meat.

    I know, the above syllogism does not make sense. It does not have to, it only has to follow the rules of sound logic.

    Here's another:

    Major Premise: All dogs are canines.
    Minor Premise: Some canines are meat eaters.

    Conclusion: Some meat eaters are dogs.


    How about this one:

    Major Premise: None of the dogs are canines.
    Minor Premise: Some canines are cats.


    Conclusion?

    Some cats are not dogs

    Again, it makes no sense, but it follows the rules of logic. Just look for the pattern. Honestly, there is a simply pattern to all this just like math. It is very similar to positive and negatvie integers in math. I hope this helps.

    Wendell

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    goldenbug..........you're my HERO!!!
    thank you

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    Man, I wish I could have had this post written on my palm today. It's the only part of the PATI that I'm worried about. How does the marking work? Do you have to get a minimum on each section or do you have to get a minimum % on the whole test as well as at least 50% on every section. I really hope that these pissmeoffogisms don't screw up my results. Who knows....maybe I got them right? That's the point...I have no idea how I did.

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    exam

    Hope you did well. I 'm writing on Wed. I only have a week to study, since they only called last week to say I passed the interview. What was the exam like. I have been working with policeprep the last few days, but the exams seem to be getting harder or I'm just getting tired of looking at them.

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    wikipedia!

    i went to wikipedia .com and looked it up on there. easy way to do it. werked fer me!

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    WOW...thats the most simplest way I've ever seen it explianed. Thanks a ton! 8)
    Train Hard...Stay Safe!

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    Goldenbug!

    GOLDENBUG!!! YOU'RE A TRUE GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I was having a hard time with the syllogisms and then I came across your post this morning and tried the syllogisms again and now I'm scoring 85%% on the tests.

    Thank you soo much

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    That is definitely helpful

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    these are from test 5. The theory doesnt always work. My answers are underlined, they were wrong. Bold Italics are apparently right

    Question 5

    In the company there were no scientists that were technicians.
    All technicians the company employed were women who worked on a wide variety of projects.

    Some women are not scientists

    No scientists are women

    Some women are scientists

    None of the above

    Question 6

    No students are volunteers.
    All volunteers are award winners.

    No students are award winners

    All award winners are volunteers

    Some award winners are not students

    None of the above

    Question 7

    All water is liquid.
    All liquid is wet.

    Everything that is wet is a liquid

    Everything that is wet is water

    Some liquids are wet

    Some things that are wet are water.

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    I agree flim flam. I never scored perfectly either. However, I passed with 80% or higher all the time on syllogisms with the system I learned. I wish success to every one here.

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